Sheila Elcott asked:
I have an 11 year old red fox lab boy who keeps getting a build up of black coloured dandruff type patches under his chin & his manly areas. Up to date with spot on. Is it his age & lack of my grooming care? After bathing & removing said patches the skin clears. He has hip & elbow dysplacia to boot. Tnx
Answer:
Hi Sheila, thanks for your question. Skin problems in dogs can be really frustrating to deal with, so I’ll go through some of the possibilities, then talk about how they can be investigated and managed.
So, what can cause patches of black dandruff material to appear?
There are a number of possibilities that spring immediately to mind:
- Flea dirt. Flea droppings are black flecks, sometimes comma-shaped.
- I know you’re up to date with spot-on, but there are a wide range of different products out there, some of which are more effective and longer-lasting than others. In addition, most spot-ons are water soluble, so regular bathing or swimming will reduce their effectiveness.
- You’ll very rarely see a live flea unless there’s a really severe infestation. To check it out, try the wet paper test:
- Scrape some of the black material onto a sheet of wet white paper.
- If it goes red, it is probably a flea dropping – they’re basically just dried digested blood.
Meet Ella: The Dog Who Saved My Life: The Sunday Times Bestseller Buy NowWe earn a commission if you make a purchase, at no additional cost to you. - Scabs. As blood dries, it turns black and crumbly. It can be caused by:
- Lice. Heavy louse infestation can cause scabbing where the parasites suck.
- Skin infections. In these areas, this would typically be a skin fold infection, where saliva or moisture is trapped against the skin, damaging it and allowing infection to become established.
- Allergic reactions (e.g. contact dermatitis). Reactions to products such as surface cleaners, pesticides, some plants, etc etc; typically affect the high-contact surfaces – chin, elbows, hocks and belly.
- Sebaceous matter. Sometimes, excessive secretion of sebum may give the symptoms you’re discuss. This may be due to sebaceous adenitis (an inflammatory disorder), or simply from aging changes.
Unfortunately, without seeing the dog, it’s difficult to know which of these is the most likely for your boy!
So where do we go from here?
Ideally, you want to rule out parasites – do a wet paper test; and ask your vet to do skin scrapes and tape strips to examine the black material and the skin underneath it. Also, try and see if there’s anything that seems to trigger an episode – for example, if it always flares up after using a particular floor cleaner, I’d be really suspicious it was an allergic reaction.
So what can be done?
If a specific cause can be identified, obviously it should be treated (for example, a louse infestation should be treated; and you should avoid using any products that your dog is allergic to).
Even if not, there are certain techniques that may be useful in controlling the symptoms. As the problem resolves with cleaning, I’m quite suspicious that it might be a skin-fold infection – these are often more common in older dogs. In general, these can be controlled with grooming, good hygiene, and the use of medicated antiseptic wipes (e.g. CLX wipes) to control the growth of bacteria in the area. Sometimes, bathing with an antiseptic shampoo can help as well – you should talk to your vet about the options.
I hope that helps and you can get him sorted out!
David Harris BVSc MRCVS
Discussion
I have 1 week old puppies and I notice the three white puppies had something dark color I felt it it was quite hard when you touching it looked like dirt but they haven’t moved out of the little kiddie pool they are in. And I don’t if it’s flea dirt if it’s flea dirt should I treat it. I don’t wantbto treat with flea stuff with how old they are.
It does sound like it might be flea dirt, but if so, it’s a really heavy infestation, which could be putting their health at risk. There are other options, though, so I think definitely get them seen by your vet before reaching for medication at that age!
My dog is a 2 yr old male which has never had his penis outside of its sheath. Now I see what appears to be opening in his hide a couple inches from his penis around his stomach area. What could that be ?
Most likely, it’s his prepuce (foreskin) opening – if you can feel his penis shaft under the skin, it should line up with the opening. Alternately, it could be a cut or laceration. If you’re not sure, I’d recommend a vet check just to make sure it isn’t an injury!
The fur on my the bottom of my dogs back legs have started looking weird, instead of just white, it’s turned black and white. i realized that it’s because the end of every one of his hairs has something black on the root of it. it’s almost like dirt, but it won’t scrub off like dirt would. also, the fur is just coming out when i pulled on it to try and clean!! the part of his fur that i am talking about is just ripping out. i don’t know if this is something serious or not, and not sure how to explain it. i could attach pictures if i can figure it out if it would help.
i first noticed this after i rubbed the bottom of his legs with dawn soap to try and kill fleas, but i didn’t wash it off because i thought it would be fine. the next time i saw him, (i’m in college), a few days later, that’s when i first noticed that.
could that relate to his situation? his skin is still tan underneath the black roots of the fur, so it’s not like his skin is black which is why his legs would look like that?
hopefully i am explaining this okay, and can you please let m w know if this could be something serious?
Thanks!!!
There are a lot of possibilities, to be honest with you: black deposits can be flea dirt (don’t trust the use of any soap though – it really isn’t very effective against an established flea infestation), but they can also be discoloured sebum, pus, or other pigments from the skin. I’m quite worried by your description that the hair just comes out with the dirt, as this might suggest quite an active disease process (such as a pyoderma or skin infection); or the presence of some sort of chemical residue on the skin. I think a vet check would be a really good idea to try and get to the bottom of this!
My poodle has black spots on his head only. They are not on him any where else He is not scratching. What could this be?
There are lots of possibilities. The first thing is to collect one of the spots and put it on a sheet of wet, white paper. If it goes red, then this is flea dirt, meaning there is a significant flea infestation. If not, then it might be mud, or a skin condition such as seborrhoea; in that case, a vet check is the best thing to do.
My English Creme Golden is 5 months old. Since we first brought him home we noticed white flakes. Thought maybe just puppy dander. Vet put us on flea and tick thinking it may be mites. Flakes still there. Now we are using an antiseptic shampoo called biohex with chlorexidine. Before biohex I noticed some black flakes. (Definitely not fleas) black flakes are becoming more. Only one bath so far with the biohex.
There are a range of skin diseases that can cause seborrhoea – oily skin with various coloured flakes. If the vet is recommending an antiseptic shampoo, that’s a really good place to start. If that’s ineffective, it might be worth talking to them about a further diagnostics to determine the cause, or discussing the possibility of trying a sebolytic shampoo with them. In any case, skin problems are often quite frustrating to get to the bottom of, so it’s important to keep working with your vet!
Following…. my English Creme has horrible black flakes….. no itching though… just the flakes. …. but very noticeable against her pure white coat. Brushing makes it worse.
Again, could be seborrhoea – have a chat to your vet for a suitable shampoo, assuming all the other causes have been ruled out.
How much will it cost for a blood test on my chihuahua to see if it has testicle has my vet can’t tell
I’m afraid that is only a question your own vet can answer as charges for labs can vary – please ask them for a quote for the test!
How much will it cost for a blood test on my chihuahua to see if it has testicle has my vet can’t tell
I’m afraid that is only a question your own vet can answer as charges for labs can vary – please ask them for a quote for the test!
hi we have had our bulldog rushed in as she had pyometria 10 days ago. She was fine up until today we saw ALOT of blood that had come from her vulva. she got rushed back to the vets and they kept her under observation for 8 hours. she bled alot all this time and became in a critical condition. they gave her blood tests (should have done this at the start) 8 hours after taking her in. The tests came back that she had another infection and it may be the stump thats infected and she might not make it. i have read that this can be caused if they dont get rid of all the bacteria from the previous operation. now shes in a critical condition and may not make it after this operation and there wanting £900! but isnt this the vets fault in the first place? help please 🙁
hi we have had our bulldog rushed in as she had pyometria 10 days ago. She was fine up until today we saw ALOT of blood that had come from her vulva. she got rushed back to the vets and they kept her under observation for 8 hours. she bled alot all this time and became in a critical condition. they gave her blood tests (should have done this at the start) 8 hours after taking her in. The tests came back that she had another infection and it may be the stump thats infected and she might not make it. i have read that this can be caused if they dont get rid of all the bacteria from the previous operation. now shes in a critical condition and may not make it after this operation and there wanting £900! but isnt this the vets fault in the first place? help please 🙁