Question from Sarah Knight:
My Scottie has horrendous breath, teeth are fine, have changed her diet, she also has charcoal on her meals, any other ideas truly welcomed!
Answer: Bad Breath
Hi Sarah, thanks for your question about your dog’s bad breath. To answer it, I’m going to run through the possible causes of halitosis, along with any other symptoms they might show. I’ll then talk about the most likely reasons, and where to go next with diagnosis and treatment options.
Causes of Halitosis
Halitosis, or “bad breath”, is defined as an “offensive odour emanating from the oral cavity”. There are a number of possible causes, some of which are more common than others.
1) Diet
You say you’ve modified her diet, but a lot of dogs (especially terriers!) eat unpleasant things given half a chance – particularly faeces (those of other dogs, horses, livestock etc), or dead and rotting things (often mice or birds found lying in the undergrowth when out on walks). Inevitably, eating anything like this will lead to bad breath.
2) Metabolic disease
We’re particularly talking about diabetes or kidney failure here – both of which can lead to halitosis. In diabetes, the body produces ketones as a fuel supply for the brain, which have a strong smell (with overtones of pear drops – however, not all humans have the gene required to be able to detect this); in kidney disease, the build up of nitrogen waste products in the blood may result in oral lesions and/or smelly breath. In both cases, you’d expect to see increased thirst and possibly weight loss, but the signs can be pretty subtle in the early stages.
3) Respiratory disease
Infections of the nose and sinuses often lead to foul smelling breath, as can tumours of the nasal cavity. Sometimes, in fact, there are no other symptoms, although I’d usually expect some nasal discharge (a single snotty nostril that doesn’t clear up is the classic sign). Have you noticed any wheezing or sneezing? These can be signs that there’s something amiss as well. Sometimes dogs can get foreign bodies such as grass blades stuck up their noses – these result in inflammation and infection, and the tell-tale smell.
4) Oesophageal disease
Some conditions of the oesophagus (the gullet or “food pipe”) can result in halitosis – particularly some tumours or a condition called megaoesophagus, where the gullet is stretched and doesn’t function properly. However, these are usually associated with regurgitation of food or difficulty swallowing.
5) Skin disease
Although I wouldn’t say it was especially common in scotties, infections of skin around the lips (lip fold pyoderma) can occur in any breed, and can smell quite unpleasant – if the skin around her mouth looks sore or is painful, this is a distinct possibility that will need intervention. Pyoderma like this can also be a result of an allergic condition.
6) Dental disease
This is by far the most common cause of halitosis! Most dogs develop some tartar and plaque as they get older; in some its much worse than others. You say her teeth appear fine, and I’m sure they do, at least at the front; however, plaque is much more common towards the back of the mouth where it’s much harder to see. In addition, dogs can get what’s called a biofilm, where the teeth are covered in a thin membrane of bacteria, but may look normal. In addition, tooth disease doesn’t have to be above the gums – a healthy-looking tooth may have severe gingevitis (gum infection), or periodonitis (infection and inflammation of the roots) which is a common cause of bad breath.
I have to say that, without seeing her, I think some degree of dental disease is the most likely explanation.
Where do we go from here?
Firstly, it’s always worth checking to see if she is picking up faeces from something, and if so, preventing her from having free range in that area. If she’s eating her own, there are products available (e.g. Copro-Nil) that make a dog’s own faeces much less appetising.
Assuming that isn’t the (nice, simple!) cause, check to see if she is showing any other symptoms – snotty nose, sneezing, regurgitating, drinking more, losing weight etc. Measuring water intake over a 24 hour period is really useful; as a rough rule of thumb, more than 90ml per kg per day is an abnormally high amount. If she is showing any of these signs, or you are at all concerned, you should see your vet for further investigation. Blood and urine tests can be used to diagnose kidney disease and diabetes, and X-rays are commonly used for nasal and oesophageal disorders.
The next step is to check for dental problems. It is virtually impossible to do a full dental examination on a conscious patient, but your vet will probably have several tricks up their sleeve that let them get a good look around to pick up the obvious. For a full dental examination, however, an anaesthetic is needed (and I have to say, it’s pretty rare not to find any issues at all in an adult dog). A “dental” (so-called) is a very routine procedure, and would be my favoured way forward, unless you and your vet can be pretty confident that there aren’t any underlying dental issues.
What happens in a “Dental”?
Essentially, the dog is anaesthetised, then their mouth and teeth can be carefully examined (without risk to fingers). Any loose or diseased teeth are removed, and the remainder are scaled and polished to remove any plaque or tartar (just like a visit to the hygienist for us). Normally, the dog will go home the same day.
Is there anything else I can try first?
Yes – if there aren’t any other symptoms, and you can’t see any signs of gum disease or plaque, you can (and really should!) start brushing her teeth. In fact, even if your dog has just had a dental, if at all possible start to brush afterwards – bacteria attach to the freshly cleaned tooth within 6-8 hours, and mineralise (forming dental calculus or “plaque”) within days.
Get a soft tooth-brush suitable for her size (a children’s brush, or a specialist dog one), and some dog tooth-paste (DON’T use human paste – the mint flavour is really nasty for most dogs). Just as you would brush your teeth, gently brush hers, a little at a time until she gets used to it. I would strongly advise every dog owner to brush their pet’s teeth – it would avoid a lot of problems later on.
I hope that helps and that you can get her smelly breath under control!
David Harris BVSc MRCVS
Discussion
I brush my 2 yr old Cavapoos teeth every day, and have done so since she was a baby. But she still has bad breath. Any ideas? Thanks
Probably worth getting a vet check to make sure that there aren’t any other issues going on that might cause bad breath; if not, try a dog-safe mouthwash in her water, to mop up extra bacteria: your vet will be able to recommend one.
My 2 year old puppy is acting strange. She yawns all the time and they appear to be fake yawns. Her breath is absolutely atrocious and twice tonight I found her hiding-laying in a place she would NEVER go. I’m terrified something is really wrong. Please help.
Changes in behaviour like this can be very concerning, but unfortunately they’re so idiosyncratic (unique to the patient) that they don’t help us work out what’s going on and what the cause is.
I would advise you to get a vet check and see if there’s anything medically going wrong, especially if you’re anxious about her!
My 10 year old husky mix has TERRIBLE breath. To the point you can tell what room she has been in a half hour after she leaves. We had her teeth cleaned and they said there were no extractions needed (this time, she had some a couple years prior). Within a few days after her teeth were cleaned the odor was back and worse than ever. Unfortunately this is not a dog that will allow anyone to brush her teeth, she has to be sedated for a dental procedure. Someone recommended trying antibiotics incase there was some underlying infection in her gums. Is this a good starting place or is there a better recommendation? I feel bad for her, as she is aging she wants more human attention and contact , but her breath is so bad no one can stand be around her for long.
Antibiotics are an option, but long-term antibiotics are really quite a risk in terms of antibiotic resistant bacteria. Were dental X-rays done? Sometimes they can show up problems that aren’t apparent from a simple oral examination. It does sound like there’s a real issue there that needs to be investigated, I agree!
Hello! I have a 6 year old Labrador retriever who has had continuing issues with his stomach his whole life and has had an issue with drinking lots of water. His breath stinks really bad too but he had his teeth cleaned by a vet last year after he broke his back tooth on a bone and now I clean his teeth every week and he also gets ultrasound dental treatments which remove plaque once every three months since it builds up so quickly on him. He had his dental last month but his breath is horrendous again! Someone told me it smells like fish! His teeth look clean and his gums aren’t red but I’m worried he might have an underlying condition. He’s lost quite a bit of weight over the past two months but he had been on a diet due to being overweight. He drinks lots of water and we have to feed him four times a day with small meals otherwise he brings up sick in his mouth and swallows it. Could this be causing his bad breath? He’s also on a lot of medication for his skin issues and asthma.
I’d suggest a vet check again, specifically to look for the origin of that smell. The vomiting certainly could be the problem; however, if he smells “fishy” I’d advise you ask the vet to look at his anal glands – if they’re giving him trouble and he’s licking the area, that can often result in a fishy odour. Good luck!
All of a sudden my dog won’t shut his mouth he just leaves it open and his breath smells HORRIBLE!!! it has never smell bad i’m not sure what i should do. it doesn’t seem to both her him but it’s odd.
This needs urgent veterinary attention NOW. The most likely explanations are that either there’s serious damage to the jaw hinge, or he’s in agony but is hiding it. Call your vat ASAP.
My 5 year old shih tzu/Maltese mix had dental surgery in early October. She had what appeared to be gingivitis and some bad teeth, which were removed. Since then, she hasn’t been the same. Twice we’ve had to go back to the vet for what seems to be an infection which they think is related to her teeth but they can’t see anything. (Symptoms: bad breath, trouble swallowing, drooling(not clear. When it dries her fur is crusty), swollen lymph nodes and salivary glands, clear runny nose, lethargic, disinterest in dog food but can be tempted with chicken) Her nose is constantly running clear since the surgery (never noticed it before the surgery) and her lymph nodes and salivary glands are swollen still. What are possible alternate diagnosis besides dental? I’m starting to wonder if dental wasn’t the obvious but wrong choice first choice.
That still sounds dental, but I’d wonder if there was some deep seated infection? Time to talk to your vet about dental X-rays I think, to see if there’s some issue hiding away below the gum line.
we have a 3 yr old pekingese now for 4 months. He is fun but also has issues. he is very affectionate in the morning full of kisses on each closed eye and kisses my ear and gently tugs on my ear lobe. plays and rolls on the bed but will growl and try to bite when I take him off. He is never happy to be picked up. He loves belly rubs. Lets my clean his tear stained eyes and loves to have his teeth rubbed and the roof of his mouth and loves the tooth brush. he is a wreck in the car to the point we can’t take him anywhere. He loves our other peke and they get along. He eats like there is no tommorrow. My vet hates him because he tries to bite her. When my husband or I leave the house he cries gut wrenching cries until him or I return. I am so confused. Had pekes for 55 yrs. I know them well and this is a stumper. this is our 3rd rescue peke and for several years fostered pekes waiting for their forever home.
This sounds like he might have separation anxiety – take a look at my colleague Lizzie’s blog here: https://vethelpdirect.com/vetblog/2020/06/10/when-should-i-take-my-dog-to-see-a-behaviourist/
My 10 yr old afghan had a fractured Tooth, removed about 6 mos ahi. The veterinary dentist say no chewing on anything hard. What is out there that she can chew on? How about “ no hide”. Is that too hard? He said elk antlers and bones are too hard.
My advice would be to talk to your vet for a list of suitable products in your area!
I have a four year old chihuahua, she has very bad breath. It smells like something died in her mouth. The vet said her teeth and gums are good and her diet is good. Every time we go to the vet for her yearly check up. The vet even recommend that we try these dog treats that are for dog breath. We have tried all kinds of those and my dog wont eat those and her breath smells really bad. What do i do to help it.
If your vet says there aren’t any underlying health issues, then the most likely explanation is that there are just some really smelly bacteria in her mouth! I would say that your best bet would be to make sure you brush her teeth regularly with a dog-friendly toothpaste, ideally every day. Don’t try to use human toothpaste, but get stuck in with the dog kind!
Your veterinary team will be able to show you how, if you’re not sure.
My dogs breath smells good again after I brush his teeth, but then after two to three days it starts to stink again. I’m starting to brush his teeth more often.
It would be worth chatting to your vet about it, just in case there’s something else going on – for example, plaque below the gum line, which you often won’t be able to remove with a toothbrush.
Hello,
I brush my dogs teeth 2x a week since she was a puppy and is now 9 years old. About a year or so ago I noticed her breath started to smell bad. Now it smells like something rotten. I Pried her mouth open and look at her teeth and gums and there is literally no plaque build up and her teeth look fine. I saw no signs of any lesions. About a month ago she was treated for a bacterial skin infection so she was on antibiotics for 14 days. During the 14 days she was on the antibiotics her breath really didnt smell. Now that shes been off the antibiotics her breath smells rancid again. Could she be having an intestinal issue? I’m a FT college student and really don’t have the money to take her to the vet unless it’s something serious. Since shes had this issue for quite some time I’m not too worried other than not wanting her face close to mine.
Thank you for any help in advance.
There are a lot of possibilities, but the most likely would seem to be bacterial overgrowth, probably below the gum line where you can’t see it. Other possibilities would, as you’ve said, include a GI infection, but it seems less likely. Unfortunately, by 9 years old even with regular brushing (and well done for that!) many dogs will have some degree of gingivitis below the gum line, and it may be that your dog is going to need dental treatment to resolve the problem. Untreated, periodontal disease can cause tooth loss, tooth root abscesses, and even heart or kidney problems, so I think getting her checked out by your vet in the near future would be a really good idea.
My cross breed spaniel had 3 teeth removed, plaque removed and her teeth cleaned. She started to get bad breath again and I returned to the vets. Today she has had the plaque removed again. Can plaque build up in this amount of short time.
It depends how long – plaque can reform within 24 hours in some circumstances! This is why regular brushing and other home-care is so important in dogs who are predisposed to tartar formation.
Our 4 year old Jack Russell Lab mix, Loki has the worst breath! That being said, we love our dogs and take them for regular checkups at by their Vet and we asked about his oral health and they gave him a clean bill of health, stating no need for a cleaning due to no tartar and no cavities as well. They recommend lots of crunchy treats.
Well, Loki eats a high quality dry kibble food and he’s spoiled so he’s not lacking in the crunchy treats department…so what’s next? By the way, he’s fear aggressive if you try to do anything to him..not even a nail trim or even apply topical flea prevention. He’s not having it!
Help us, please!
If it’s not a dental problem, then that suggests either he eats something nasty when you’re not watching, or there’s another medical issue going on. Given he’s a 4 year old Lab cross I’d be suspicious of the first! I’d suggest monitoring where he goes and how he smells afterwards and see what turns up… If no change, then perhaps chat to your vets about blood testing, but given his fear aggression try to rule out simple things first.
I brush my rescue dog’s teeth every single day without fail. She had terrible breath when I got her. I had her teeth cleaned and have not missed a single day since in brushing them. It has been almost six months.
Lately and ever increasingly, her breath is starting to smell rotten again.
Her gums are a bit red near the teeth, but no sign of plaque or cavities. So I assume she has gum disease?
Is there anything else I can do for her?
Well done!
Unfortunately, brushing isn’t 100% effective – it dramatically slows down gum disease, but doesn’t always prevent it.
The next step is to talk to your veterinarian about a scale and polish to clean under the gumline, and see if there is any other cause hidden away near the back of the mouth, like a tooth root infection.
I have a coton de tulear, retired from breeding she is 4 1/2 yrs old. She is adjusting slowly to her new home. Temperature wise but she wont eat her kibble and drinks very little. Can’t get her to do any toiletting. It has just been 48 hours since we got her. I walk her for 20 min. Still no toileting even in our yard. She did have one bad accident in the house/ she also clings to me. She is a sweetie.
What you’ve described sounds like stress on finding herself suddenly in a new home; however, not drinking might be something of an issue. It’s probably worth trying to tempt her to eat and drink with flavoured things that she might like, and it wouldn’t hurt to get her checked out by your veterinarian if you have any doubts as to whether she’s drinking enough.
My 13 year old husky wants to sleep outside all day and all night. It is cold at night ( 28F) but he has a house filled with blankets. is it ok for him to stay outside? Plus his appetite has lessened now that it is cold. He shivers when he comes in for about 5 min. Is this normal?
It really isn’t uncommon for a husky to want to sleep outside – they’re adapted to keep the warmth in, not out! However, shivering when coming indoors isn’t normal – and at 13 there might be some underlying problem, so it would probably be a good idea to get him checked out by your veterinarian.
Our older dachshund has BREATH FROM THE DEAD!! Our vet said.he’s 100% healthy except this breath! Brushing his teeth like getting a Tasmanian Devil to agree to the same. He also gets the Milkbone toothbrush bones every night. He used to get Denta-Stix but they weren’t liked and didn’t help at all. HELP!! IT GETS WORSE ALL THE TIME!
Hello! I have a 14 year old dachshund that has also had dental cleanings every year and has absolutely no medical issues other than stinky breath. I hate it for him. We just had his teeth cleaned and he’s stinky again! All labs are good. He is losing his vision but routinely knows where his food and water are and I haven’t noticed a change there. He behaves as if he is about 4-5. Just can’t see any more and has stinky breath. I’ve just chalked it up to being older. Let me know if you have found anything that works. We also use a dental rinse each day
Hello, it seems he really needs a return visit to the vet for a dental work-up – something is causing his issue and only by dental examination under anaesthetic can it be resolved. Please contact your vet and take him along.
i have a 2 year old German Shepherd and was told his teeth are really bad for his age. He chases balls in the dirt and buries his chews in dirt and then digs them up and chews them. Could the amount of dirt he gets in his mouth contribute to his plaque buildup and gum disease?
Hi Deneen. It could contribute – getting a dirty mouth won’t help, and if there are any little stones in the dirt, chewing on these could cause damage to the teeth. Where possible, try to stop this, although I appreciate it can be hard! And it’s never too late to get started on some dental care – brushing his teeth would be the ideal next step, but if you don’t think he’ll tolerate this, have a chat to your vet or vet nurse about other options for him, such as dental diets, enzymatic gels etc. Any form of toothcare will help to prevent the teeth deteriorating further.