Article supported by veterinary professionals Cat Henstridge MRCVS, Susie Samuel MRCVS, Francisco Gomez MRCVS, Kathryn Carmichael MRCVS, Robyn Lowe DipAVN, Lennon Foo MRCVS, Sandra Sheils MRCVS, Jane Anderson RVN, Christel van Veen MRCVS, Heather Tyrie MRCVS, Amy Combes MRCVS, Barbara Willis-Clark MRCVS, Becky Preece MRCVS, Olivia Cook MRCVS, Jill Steed MRCVS, Jennifer Whybrow MRCVS, Tiziana Pike MRCVS, Monica Wallace MRCVS, Emily Marriott MRCVS, Kiah Hann MRCVS, Stephanie Harmon MRCVS, Rebecca Denning MRCVS, Ailsa Curnow MRCVS, Colin Chadderton MRCVS, Jeff Langberk MRCVS, Katrina Dorrington-Ward MRCVS, Beth Brant RVN, Laura Ayton RVN, Kirsty Jones RVN
Many of us woke up on Thursday to an amazing expose in the national news – that dogs fed a vegan diet were healthier than those fed a “conventional meat based” diet. It was in a peer reviewed journal, and it all sounded very scientific and like a genuine breakthrough. But there were a couple of things in these reports that didn’t sound quite right – firstly, science is a process (which is why the whole “follow the science” thing isn’t as black and white as many would have us believe). And secondly, it’s a process that requires challenge. What were the weaknesses in the study? What other factors could have led to these results? And could the data be interpreted in any other way?
Table of contents
- This is what’s really shocking about these findings
- However, my biggest issue was with the BBC’s coverage
- Are the findings true then?
- A better headline: People who feed vegan or raw diets think their dogs are healthier
- Another worry – the continual demonisation of commercial dog foods
- But above all, the scientific illiteracy of the general media
- So is vegan – or raw – food really healthier for dogs?
This is what’s really shocking about these findings
None of those questions were asked. The Times and the Telegraph quoted the report, and additional comments by one of the researchers, as proof of the findings – vegan diets healthier for dogs, read all about it! The same line was taken by the Independent which, unlike the right of centre newspapers, didn’t even include the caveats from the authors about the importance of feeding a fully complete and balanced diet.
The Guardian, to their credit, was the only broadsheet newspaper to carry any voices of caution, in the person of Justine Shotton (president of the British Veterinary Association), who vainly tried to point out the limitations of the current data. But, she had been pushed to the very bottom of the article, along with (again, well done the Guardian) the information that the study’s lead author was vegans and it was funded by ProVeg, a pro-vegan “food awareness” pressure group.
However, my biggest issue was with the BBC’s coverage
On Radio 4’s flagship Today programme, presenters briefly reported the headline findings. They were then joined by author Andrew Knight (Professor of Animal Behaviour and Ethics, not a nutritionist) who described the study. The interviewers obsessed over the names of different types of food and the funding of the research, without engaging with the details of the research, allowing that to go without question. The counter-opinion was given by Louise Glazebrook (a dog behaviourist) who argued the benefits of raw food and stated (without any evidence) that a complete dry food was almost always nutritionally inadequate (despite having no nutritional qualifications, and this issue having been debunked repeatedly in recent years).
The fearless BBC interviewers, relentless in their attacks on politicians and business leaders, failed to even mention the merits of the research itself, leaving the alleged health benefits of the vegan diet completely unquestioned.
Are the findings true then?
That’s the point – this research doesn’t tell us, one way or the other. The study is reported in PLOS ONE so is openly available for anyone to read. But sadly, there are some significant issues with it.
Fundamentally, this is a report of a survey, with responses from 2500 dog owners. Strangely, 13% of the respondents fed a vegan diet, and 33% a raw food diet (not representative of the wider population – although this isn’t necessarily a problem). However, the fundamental problem with this isn’t the results (which I believe), it’s that we cannot know exactly what these results actually mean: because there is no objective information about whether these dogs really were healthier, or just saw the vet less often. And remarkably, the study showed that raw fed dogs were even healthier… However, in their discussions, the authors of the study went well out of their way to explain away the findings of the raw fed dogs’ health, stressing the weaknesses of the study as it related to the raw feeders… Whilst ignoring the same factors for the vegan alternative.
My colleague Robyn Lowe has written a thorough review of the paper, which is available here.
A better headline: People who feed vegan or raw diets think their dogs are healthier
That itself is fascinating – but of course it doesn’t have the headline-worthy shock value, does it? And that’s the problem with the news reports this morning… They all took the research at face value without questioning the dubious conclusions that were built on solid data, but which may have been misinterpreted.
Another worry – the continual demonisation of commercial dog foods
We’ve actually published on this topic this week, and the reality is that these diets are indeed safe and nutritious. The “destruction” of the original ingredients by cooking (as discussed on Today) is actually something of a red herring. The problem with that argument is that all the nutritional analysis demonstrating a food from a reputable company as being complete is based on the finished food, not the raw ingredients…
But above all, the scientific illiteracy of the general media
The only major UK news provider reporting on this story that acknowledged that there might be a scientific issue (as opposed to one based in personal opinion) was the Guardian. All the rest accepted it as fact. And this can only be because the most basic concepts of science – that any conclusion needs to be rooted in the evidence collected, that it must be challenged and the study replicated before the finding can be accepted, and that individual bias must be removed from the process as far as possible – are in fact alien to a large percentage of those who plan, research and present the news to the general public.
So is vegan – or raw – food really healthier for dogs?
It might be. But this research doesn’t answer the question! It just tells us what people who have bought into these diets think, how likely they are to go to the vet, and perhaps how likely they are to remember their vet’s advice. Now that’s really interesting – but it isn’t what the headlines are saying.
Discussion
What kind of wacky “fact checking” org
would promote the PRasNews too ?
… Yep SNOPES
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vegan-diets-healthy-for-dogs/
Snopes promoted their page by tweeting that strange question 5 times in the last 3 days
“Did Study Find Vegan Diet Could Be Better for Dogs ?”
That’s makes it look like, it’s a cause they are CAMPAIGNING FOR
Sadly, I would disagree with Snopes on this one. Their definition of “objective data” is very different from that used by most veterinary scientists. They also do not seem to be familiar with the concepts of implicit bias or caregiver placebo.
My colleague Robyn did a much more extensive examination of the strengths and weaknesses of this paper here:
https://vethelpdirect.com/vetblog/2022/04/15/vegan-diets-are-healthier-and-safer-for-dogs-or-are-they/
The Times got a kicking from readers, for publishing the PRasNews
and failing to name the funding source.
(In the comments which are only open to paid subscribers)
TOP COMMENT :
\\ Prof Andrew Knight has not declared a relevant interest here: He has produced ‘an extensive series of YouTube videos, on plant-based companion animal diets,’ and fronts a website advertising vegan and vegetarian pet food and pet food suppliers ‘sustainablepetfood’
Given his clear focus and the fact this ‘research’ is based on the information provided by pet owners with no suggestion of verification, this is a highly suspect piece of so-called research //
So appreciate this response. The “study” was incredibly poorly executed and the results were irrelevant but it was reported as fact. This should never have been a news story at all. But so many people will read the headline and dogs and cats will be malnourished as a consequence. Ridiculously poor journalism of a non story.
In our world this is a very emotive subject. We found genuine health benefits by returning our own pets to a biologically appropriate diet & today we serve our every growing community with a diet we believe in. We set the area APHA benchmark and continue to produce a diet that is not a trend but a diet supported by the very anatomical make up of our pets. These diets that are based on yeild, margins & trends, all have a purpose but I’d strongly argue that their origins are more business related rather than wealfare based. If this was not the case would many Comercial diets not contain rendered ingredients or even sprayed on flavours??? That is not to mentioned ingredients like rice a food source cats & dogs struggle to digest….
At Nurturing by Nature we have grown a community through growing an educated community that often start their journey with us through seeing a friends pets looking so fit & healthy. Whilst education takes dedication over time, which we have grown it’s actually the evidence of an abundance of fit and active pets that have grown our community.
There is a strong argument to suggest that many diets today are marketing driven rather than factually correct. I would imagine that a vegan diet is marketing driven to appeal to us the humans rather than the actual heath or nutritional needs of the pets.
After all when it comes to us humans, a fast food meal provides an energy source yet we all understand that this is not the most nutritional style of diet for a long term healthy diet.
What is the evidence for your claim about rice being difficult to digest? I’d be interested, because it’s one of the lowest residue carbohydrate sources, meaning it would normally be considered highly digestible.
I am new here, if these comments are not allowed forgive me & I will happily review my post.
National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences, “Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats”, 2006 Edition, National Academies Press, Washington, DC. They conclude carbs are not required – rice is a carb,
It is high on the glycemic index & thus can cause a spike in blood sugar levels but also takes a lot of work for their bodies to brake down even when cooked. This is all to do with molecular make up of the grain of rice & surface area ratios. This Is the same for almost all dry pet foods. If not soaked before fed the first process of the digestion is that the food rehydrates thus creating added stress levels within the digestion process. It’s not the same with a raw diet or even a wet diet but with raw, safety seems to be an issue?? & with wet food I would question the quality of the ingredients but that is my personal view.
Interesting read – Page 116 of the “Forever Dog” By Rodney Habib and Veterinarian Karen Shaw Becker
Just because dogs can digest carbs as they do have amyles which breaks down carbs (possibly due to inclusion in our diet which they shared since we started farming) doesn’t mean they should – wolves do not do so well as produce amylase in minute quantity so can’t but this is a whole new subject matter.
Dr Mark Roberts has done studies on self selection – page 117
A lot of research has been done but often by commercial producers – (possibly trying to assess how much they can fit into their diets without obvious detriment to dogs)
I think we are going back to the fact that every dog is different and some dogs can do ok with a little carbs in various forms, after all they are omnivores & scavengers at heart. It’s also an energy source but so is pizza. I guess what I am saying in a round about way… Is that I do not believe that this diet is the most appropriate energy source for our four legged friends. My view is more evidence based in real life with our community from 2004. We manufacture a raw diet because we believe that this is biologically appropriate. Through a life changing recovery with Fred our family boxer dog in 2004 our community has positively grown through the health improvements of our community.
We have always struggled with the professional views within the pet world but this we believe is that we are approaching the subject from two different angles but openly learning more is something we’ll always continue to do.
Research in this area of pet nutrition can be traced to who funds the study & with a prebiotic product we have launched we have first hand experience of this. We are paying for the study so we set out the boundaries. If this is the case for us the world corporates will be doing the same with their diets……. What we do know though is that even though cat’s & dogs are mostly domesticated, their anatomy remains rooted in the past you only have to look at their jaw make up. Sharp teeth for catching, puncturing, chopping & the jaw power to crush soft non weight baring bones. Their saliva is a lubricant allowing them to swallow their food & then their natural behaviour would be to run off & hide to digest their meal or regurgitate for their young. Dog’s & Cat’s would seldom graze or harvest berries.
These modern diets are an energy source seldom more than that.
There’s been a lot of additional research since 2006 and most modern diets specifically factor the glycaemic index and the absorption rates into their diets, as well as the calorific content. If you’re not getting calories from carbohydrates, they need to come from fat or protein, but excess protein in the diet (over the roughly 20-30%, depending on life stage and source, required for essential amino acid mix in dogs) may be a risk factor for renal insufficiency. Additional fat can help solve the problem, but excess fat in the diet is known to be a risk factor for pancreatitis. Cereals do not appear to be associated with the same risk factors as other macronutrients in excess – although in humans there is some data that points towards a high carbohydrate diet being associated with diabetes mellitus, even in us the data is rather patchy and inconsistent, and doesn’t easily translate to species with rather different intestinal and endocrine physiology (especially as insulin resistance appears to be a relatively minor component in canine diabetes mellitus).
There isn’t a nice clean simple answer, especially when we consider that in domestication and with modern medicine and a good quality diet (whatever it’s made of) we have extended the ancestral wolf’s lifespan by perhaps 200-300%.
One of my newfoundlands is allergic to rice, whilst brown rice give both the others diarrhoea, as do peas, oats and peanut protein. My eldest girl has never tolerated brown rice, but it seems to be regarded by so many dog food manufacturers as healthy, when all it does is add fibre and slow the digestion rate (unless you’re one of my newfs, in which case, the opposite..!)
It would be really good to find safe nutritionally complete recipes for feeding the dogs, with sources for the right doses of minerals etc. Im not bothered about convenience particularly – i dont eat junk food nor do the dogs/cats but it seems there are too many ‘gurus’ out there contradicting eachother.
Pet food makers are doing a far better job than they did 40 years ago when i had my first dogs, thank heavens, but there is still some way to go for fussy so&sos like me!
Thank you SO much… and looking forward to Robyn Lowe’s review of the paper. Radio 4 piece was terrible – but then the paper itself has some big problems. Hopefully one of the BBC Science programmes/podcasts can tackle it better.
https://vethelpdirect.com/vetblog/2022/04/15/vegan-diets-are-healthier-and-safer-for-dogs-or-are-they/